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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:12 pm

There's never usually smoke without a few burnt embers..........

I like all this mystery and hype but they usually just turn out to be rich men in suits!



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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:38 am

Don't get me started on this ... I'll bore the tits of ya
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:33 am

Its a discussion thread mate, go for it....

Theres masses of stuff out there....definitely a Masonic connection imho because its all to do with Business, Banking, Investment etc etc..

The names of the Money men from the States and Europe get banded about all the time....Rothschild, Getty, Rockerfeller and so on...

As far as i can see its all trying to lead to a One world , One government order...and i suspect its a darned sight closer than any of us realise...

They'll have someone with a hand in every pie thats worth putting a hand in....

The only sinister thing about them though would be the geed and quest for power more so than any anti religion, Devil cult....

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1



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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:11 am

I personally think that the term is used so often for so many different things that it's hard to determine what it actually means. Of course, that doesn't mean that Illuminatus don't exist...

Having said that, I think that the capitalist formula that we seem to adhere to gave birth to the self serving elite that we would probably label as, 'the Illuminati'.

In principle globalisation doesn't strike me as a bad idea (I've never quite understood the notion of nations), but, like communism, in practice it would no doubt turn to crap. Especially the NWO model, which places the self serving elite at the top.

Then again, it seems that's how our nations are run... I find it very difficult to understand why we live the way we do. Our systems are full of holes and injustice, where we are headed seems only worse, but we continue...?

As I see it, whether it's the Illuminati or not, there will be a comparable force in absolute power unless we change our ways.
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:39 pm

i saw a series on history channel the other day. they had compiled some fascinating links with illuminati and the founding of america. i think they do exist.
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:13 am

saintsinner wrote:
i saw a series on history channel the other day. they had compiled some fascinating links with illuminati and the founding of america. i think they do exist.

You think that if the illuminati did exist, with as much power and sway over the media as they apparently have ...

I doubt how much 'truth' would be in a History Channel produced programme.

How much would be fact and how much would be diversionary tactics?

I tend to think that any information we have at all, is only there for us to gather because they want it out there. the rest is a mystery.

Edit - That made no sense, still got sleep in my eyes
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:09 am

This is how I see it ...

What we consider to be the Illuminati does exist as a force, probably not in name and they ARE Freemasonary, just the very highest levels of it.

See the pyramid



Imagine your average Mason, going down to the local town temple, playing at being in some kind of secret society, secret hand shakes blah blah. When infact all they really do is chat about the weather and hire each other to do their plumbing etc on the cheap.
Well these chaps would be at the lowest level of the pyramid, the foundation stones, lots and lots of them holding the structure (network) up. They hold no real power in the network but none the less they are IN the network.

Gradually the the levels get higher, with less and less stones but at the same time becomming more powerful, the power to call upon the stones below them.

Right at the very top, broken away from the rest of the pyramid we have the enlightend ones, the 'illuminati', all seeing eye, golden cap on the Great Pyramind etc etc ... ultimate power, top of the network, the power to call on every single stone beneath them. The people who decide how things happen.

But, consider the pyramid to have different sections as it goes builds up, with freemasonary only being one sub-section, the others being, I dunno, organized religion? The banking system? Royal families? All connected in the massive network of power BUT each one not knowing that they are connected ... divide and conquer.

Freemasonary is no different to organized religion, infact they are pretty much the same thing. Freemasonary has its roots in Judaism, Davids Temple etc.

You'd probably be surprised at how much influence freemasonary has on modern religion.

Jehovahs Witnesses, founded in 1876 - now you ask any of them if they believe Freemasonary is right, they will tell you NO, no way, never. They even teach against the 'evils' of such things. The irony here is that the JW faith is a puppet religion of freemasonary and probably even higher (same with the Church of Mormon), the 'inventor' was a mason of the highest degree (33rd) and they run an organisation / lead a life that is Masonic to the bone.

I can go more into this and explain the reason's for needing a puppet, masonic religion if anyone is really interested.


Next time you want to get rid of a JW, don't mention god, just tell them you don't believe in Masonic cults
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:37 am

Ah, I'm bored anyway ...

The version of the Bible read by the JW's is the same as any other sect of Christianity reads ... only with a slight tweaking, a few words here and there translated differently to give a slighty different interpritation of the bible when read.

The Jehovah's Witness religion was basically set up as a Masonic organisation / ploy to spread this new (corrupted) translation to the masses and manipulate main stream Christianity into a slighty different way of thinking. Which is why JW's are encouraged so much to 'get out and spread the word', hence them turning up on your door step every other week ... their religion actually demands them to do this, you are not a good JW if you dont. Granted, the plan didn't work and JW's became riddiculed and not taken seriously, it could have gona different right? Oh and as i say, the Mormon church is basically another section of JW's, same plan ... only with a WHOLE NEW book of the bible to spread this time, not just a different translation Ha





Charles Russells (founder of the JW's) grave, infront of one the biggest masonic lodges in America



Nothing masonic about that right?



You see that cross?

Looks at what most Masonic lodges have above their 'alter'



And here it is on a WATCHTOWER magazine, take one next time they are at the door, the magazine is covered top to bottom in Masonic images.

(Top left hand corner)


You know that the leaders of the JW's actually told their followers that the world was going to end in 1914? Millions handed over money and possesions to the 'church' and prepared for the end of days.

You know how they calculated the year? By some complex maths formula gathered from the length and angles of passages in the Great Pyramid of Giza. Haha, you seriously couldn't make it up ...
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:24 am

I just read all that and thoroughly enjoyed it mate, lots of stuff there i didnt know and much food for thought.....

Nice and short and to the point to, which is about as much as i can read before me attention starts awondering...



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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:48 am

This is why they skip my door now mate, I invite them in and natter THEM to boredom LOL

I could go on for hours ...
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:53 am

You really need to get out more mate......



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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:13 am

Gaznandi wrote:
You really need to get out more mate......

I know but ... the illuminati might be out there, waiting for me?

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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:42 pm

Yes they existm and they are higher than the masons. Power money and control are their lines of communication. The hidden faces of the real world leaders. They are the ones who pull the strings of the puppets we are permitted to see.

Religion, is just another power tool in their toolbox. The big names have always been mentioned but as I know where better to hide than one in plain site. There is always an element of truth hidden in a lie.
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:04 am

Take a look here CSI, your opinions will be of interest. thumbs up



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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:12 am

ah yes, the Illuminati ... (as described, the illuminated ones) <-- yeah right !!

there head office? ... The Tomb at Yale University ... of which the Bush's are all members ..

founded in Bavaria, Germany in 1776, by Adam Weishaupt, on the orders of a British King !!!

Johann Adam Weishaupt (February 6, 1748 in Ingolstadt – November 18, 1830 in Gotha) was a German philosopher and founder of the Order of Illuminati, a secret society with origins in Bavaria.

On May 1, 1776 Weishaupt formed the "Order of Perfectibilists". He
adopted the name of "Brother Spartacus" within the order. Though the
Order was not egalitarian or democratic, its mission was the abolition of all monarchical governments and state religions in Europe and its colonies.
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:16 am

Did you know?

Queen Elizabeth II's real name is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha !!

they are of German/Jewish descent .....

remember, Hitler was a Rothschild .....
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:26 am

CSIWEMBLEY wrote:
Did you know?

Queen Elizabeth II's real name is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha !!

they are of German/Jewish descent .....

remember, Hitler was a Rothschild .....
Yep, I know on both counts. I have to remind myself to curtsey not siege Heil her. Won't get my OBE if I do that.
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PostSubject: Re: The Illuminati   Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:36 am

i would treat her like the peasant she is !!
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