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PostSubject: Taboo subject number 3: Stigma's   Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:48 am

You're a.... Hey you.... Oi....

You've all heard them at some point, a name,a label, some stigma attachment, or the use of applied attachment to somebody . The sins of the father that old routine.

Be you a Hispanic, mentally ill, deaf, Irish, black, white, green, striped, whatever at some point a stigma or name will be used or heard.

I would assume any person who has a history or such like, as in the case of that those countries like Germany and Russia etc, would be perhaps, overly sensitive to such stigmas of 'thy father's sins' attached to them even if they were not around at the time of the atrocities etc.


Shouldn't that be neither here nor there for what occurred in the past?

Should what one one man did like the tyrants of Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, even Saddam, who cared not for the whole; but for the power to control the world. Or are these acts still too fresh in many people's minds, that the stigmas of the Fathers actions are held.

That again should it be neither here nor there if you weren't directly responsible or around?.

Shouldn't it be more important is to ensure such stigmas and labeling be stopped and never occur again?

A stigma after all is just a name that is worn down by the passage of time, is this not true?
Could it be said stigmas are never worn down and are used as a form of protection or weapon depending on the attached or those who want to attach one?


Do the Brits still look toward Sweden and Norway as the evil ones for pillaging them all those years before? Some perhaps still do. Many know and acknowledge it as it happened and have moved on. In time so would other history applied stigmas, but until then; the sensitive ones will react so and those who were touched by those times and are wary will remind any of
those times. Neither are right or wrong are they?d be, perhaps, overly sensitive to such attached stigmas?

A stigma is just a name that is worn down by the passage of time, is this not true?

Do the Brits still look toward Sweden and Norway as the evil ones for pillaging them all those years before? Some perhaps still do. Many know and acknowledge it as it happened and have moved on. In time so would other history applied stigmas, but until then; the sensitive ones will react so and those who were touched by those times and are wary will remind any of those times. Neither are right or wrong are they?



Does a stigma effect the lives of the ones who have a stigma attached to them, like the depressed? Is mental illness so feared that is is placed up there along side the war crimes and other such atrocities?

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PostSubject: Re: Taboo subject number 3: Stigma's   Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:29 am

many people continue to live in the past and throw all their problems into the middle ." it is the fault of so and so cos years ago his country did this!" well and good at the time but today is today and things have moved on. we are faced with todays problems and how to confront them.
Of course , it will affect those who are tared by this. It can only make the problem worse. If people could get together and search for a honest solution then all would be a little better. It is like the Corsican vendettas, cos some-one insulted or took out some-one else then the family pays for it for ever.
But the the humain attitude is such that this sort of thing will continue.
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PostSubject: Re: Taboo subject number 3: Stigma's   Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:38 am

So, is revenge ingrained into human DNA? or is it environmentally ingrained. could removing a person from the problem, then re-introduce them later. Would it solve or just delay the inevitable?
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PostSubject: Re: Taboo subject number 3: Stigma's   Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:37 am

Many people dream of revenge but few actually put their desire of revenge into action. It is more a social thing depending on the society in which one lives. Also the original action must be taken into account. In certain cases the simple fact of having lost face is enough to bring the hordes of hell on the head of the instigater. Again everyone reacts differently to a similare situation. Ingrained into the DNA? No, it is more a social and personnal thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Taboo subject number 3: Stigma's   Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:48 am

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Many people dream of revenge but few actually put their desire of revenge into action. It is more a social thing depending on the society in which one lives. Also the original action must be taken into account. In certain cases the simple fact of having lost face is enough to bring the hordes of hell on the head of the instigater. Again everyone reacts differently to a similare situation. Ingrained into the DNA? No, it is more a social and personnal thing.
I agree for the most part. Is it ingrained into DNA, I wonder if it is through the fight of flight instict we have. We never have basic needs theya re far more complex than given credit.

Revenge is installed in us by society that is withut a doubt but how much is also coded in is the mystery. One that probably cannot be unravelled yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Taboo subject number 3: Stigma's   Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:49 am

Back to the topic of sigmas, if you had depression or had a mental or nervous breakdown would you admit it pubilcally or keep that fact hidden?
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PostSubject: Re: Taboo subject number 3: Stigma's   Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:40 am

I would probably admit it. but there again , those who know me think I am a bit mental anyway. Though possibly asocial.
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PostSubject: Re: Taboo subject number 3: Stigma's   Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:00 pm

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I would probably admit it. but there again , those who know me think I am a bit mental anyway. Though possibly asocial.
OMg a male clone of me. Who'd thunkit.


The problems is not with the admittance but how people react to mental illness of any type.

Some can handle depression, while some think it is catching; and will go out of their way to avoid the contagen zone. Other's it is an excuse to ridicule those who they deem weaker than themselves.

Mention mental illness and most people see the institutional forboding houses of screaming inmates and locked doors.
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PostSubject: Re: Taboo subject number 3: Stigma's   Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:54 am

I have mental health issues and don't mind who knows it tbh...
Most people i know are on something or other, i see no stigma attached to it at all.....

But when a German is mentioned i still picture Hitler...


I find attacking the weak as deplorable, be they mentally or physically disabled, have learning difficulties, be of another colour skin, whatever...we all have the right (or certainly should have the right) to live our lives as we see fit........



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PostSubject: Re: Taboo subject number 3: Stigma's   Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:48 am

Gaznandi wrote:
I we all have the right (or certainly should have the right) to live our lives as we see fit........
In your case that seems to be naked, living in the dark and waving your schlong about.
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