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PostSubject: The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA)   The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) Icon_minitimeSun Oct 17, 2010 9:37 am

Statement Of Senator Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.)

Few things are more important to the future of the American economy and job creation than protecting our intellectual property. The Chamber of Commerce estimates that American intellectual property accounts for more than $5 trillion of the country’s gross domestic product, and IP-intensive industries employ more than 18 million workers. Each year, online piracy and the sale of counterfeit goods cost American businesses billions of dollars, and result in hundreds of thousands of lost jobs. Studies recently cited by the AFL-CIO estimate that digital theft of movies and music alone costs more than 200,000 jobs. This is unacceptable in any economic climate. It is devastating today.

The severity of the problem continues to increase and businesses of all types and sizes – and their employees – are the victims. In Vermont, companies like Burton Snowboards and the Vermont Teddy Bear Company are well recognized brands that depend on the enforcement of our intellectual property laws to keep their businesses thriving.

The growth of the digital marketplace is extraordinary and it gives creators and producers new opportunities to reach consumers. But it also brings with it the perils of piracy and counterfeiting. The increased usage and accessibility of the Internet has transformed it into the new Main Street. Internet purchases have become so commonplace that consumers are less wary of online shopping and therefore more easily victimized by online products that may have health, safety or other quality concerns when they are counterfeit.

Today, I am introducing the bipartisan Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act, which will provide the Justice Department with an important tool to crack down on websites dedicated to online infringement. This legislation will protect the investment American companies make in developing brands and creating content and will protect the jobs associated with those investments. Protecting intellectual property is not uniquely a Democratic or Republican priority – it is a bipartisan priority.

The Justice Department is currently limited in the remedies available to prevent websites dedicated to offering infringing content. These websites are often based overseas yet target American consumers. American consumers are too often deceived into thinking the products they are purchasing are legitimate because the websites reside at familiar-sounding domain names and are complete with corporate advertising, credit card acceptance, and advertising links that make them appear legitimate.

The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act will give the Department of Justice an expedited process for cracking down on these rogue websites, regardless of whether the website’s owner is located inside or outside of the United States. This legislation authorizes the Justice Department to file an in rem civil action against the domain name, and to seek an order from the court that the domain name is used to access a website that is dedicated to infringing activities. Once the court issues an order against the domain name, the Attorney General would have the authority to serve the domain name’s U.S. based registry or registrar with that order, which would then be required to suspend the infringing domain name.

Where the registry or registrar is not located in the United States, the Act would provide the Attorney General the authority to serve the order on other specified third parties at its discretion, including Internet service providers, payment processors, and online ad network providers. These third parties, which are critical to the financial viability of the infringing website’s business, would then be required to stop doing business with that website by, for example, blocking online access to the rogue site or not processing the website’s purchases.

This legislation will provide the Department of Justice with an important tool to protect American consumers, American businesses, and American jobs. We should not expect that enactment of the legislation will completely solve the problem of online infringement, but it will make it more difficult for foreign entities to profit off American hard work and ingenuity. This bill targets the most egregious actors, and is an important first step to putting a stop to online piracy and sale of counterfeit goods.

I look forward to working with all Senators to pass this important, bipartisan legislation.

What do you guys think? Will it happen?

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America does not own the internet. America's law do not apply to all countries no matter how it thinks they do. America has a huge deficit and debt to match. 200.000 jobs lost because of piracy what a pile to crap that is.

Music and film industry alone has grown to greedy and has outpriced itself out of the market of the commoner. Thats the crux of the matter.

Instead of lowering its prices, it drives them up and spends ludricous amounts of money it hasn't got to try and fight the blackmarket. Look back throughout history and what happens i this, time and time again. Price goes up, a demand ismet for cheaper alternatives, mainly the black market provides it. No Government has ever succeded in stopping the blackmarket and it will never do.

Everytime they outlaw something it goes underground and they waste more money chasing ghosts up blind alleys. Sometimes they catch the odd spook but the main ghost train keeps chugging on.

What do I think, how about they stop pricing themselves out the market and cap greed once and for all. BUt that'll never happen the poor get poorer and run through the gutters of life looking for the shady characters to keep them alive, entertained etc. While the fat cats get fatter and moan about loss of pennies.


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I agree with all of that but if passed, (some how) will it ultimately effect everyone, just Americans, or will no one really be effected? I'm curious to hear some opinions on that because well I like my movies lol!
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I think the whole piracy, copyright infringement and the whole movie downloading stuff is a lot like nature and evolution..... it will always find a way to carry on and continue thumbs up
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thegreatest wrote:
I agree with all of that but if passed, (some how) will it ultimately effect everyone, just Americans, or will no one really be effected? I'm curious to hear some opinions on that because well I like my movies lol!

Many countries will veto the law just to piss the America off. Therefore its effectiveness will not be so encompassing as America wants.

Don't forget also copyright laws in different countries are also different. A book in America that is banned is permissable in Australia. Nudity is not permitted in America whereas Netherlands allows it. I've seen the censorship of Americas dencency laws in simple magazines such as Cosmopoltian, Which isn Britains is not censored or is considered a nudy indecent magazine, Whereas in America it is.

Doens't America have the consitution that its people can veto such laws by voting such?

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[quote="Gris Gris"]
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Nudity is not permitted in America whereas Netherlands allows it.

Good job this isn't an american forum then, otherwise my avatar would be out the window lol!
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[quote="TK Trooper"]
Gris Gris wrote:
thegreatest wrote:
Nudity is not permitted in America whereas Netherlands allows it.

Good job this isn't an american forum then, otherwise my avatar would be out the window lol!

Of course I forgot you don't see your avatar like we do. Heres what we see. The Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act (COICA) Tk lol!
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Bloody do gooder angel

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Gris Gris wrote:


Nudity is not permitted in America

What even in the bath..?

A bit harsh surely...


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Gaznandi wrote:
Gris Gris wrote:


Nudity is not permitted in America

What even in the bath..?

A bit harsh surely...


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Oh those memories of sitting in the bath to shink your jeans. If I'd only known eating chocolate has the same effect of shrinking jeans it would have saved the agon y and boredom of sitting a bath full of wate that is going as blue as your skin..

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Gris Gris wrote:
Oh those memories of sitting in the bath to shink your jeans. If I'd only known eating chocolate has the same effect of shrinking jeans it would have saved the agon y and boredom of sitting a bath full of wate that is going as blue as your skin..



LOL I can remember as a kid watching me mum trying to squeeze into a pair of skinny jeans, and then having to help fasten the button. What in the world she was expecting a 7yr old who was more interested in playing with his star wars to do, god only knows
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Gris Gris wrote:
thegreatest wrote:
I agree with all of that but if passed, (some how) will it ultimately effect everyone, just Americans, or will no one really be effected? I'm curious to hear some opinions on that because well I like my movies lol!

Many countries will veto the law just to piss the America off. Therefore its effectiveness will not be so encompassing as America wants.

Don't forget also copyright laws in different countries are also different. A book in America that is banned is permissable in Australia. Nudity is not permitted in America whereas Netherlands allows it. I've seen the censorship of Americas dencency laws in simple magazines such as Cosmopoltian, Which isn Britains is not censored or is considered a nudy indecent magazine, Whereas in America it is.

Doens't America have the consitution that its people can veto such laws by voting such?


Citizens cant veto a law they have to contact their senators or representatives and convince them to vote against it or rely on the president to veto the bill.

Either way I don't see it affecting anyone but Americans if it effects anyone at all. I just wanted some opinions on it.
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America thinks it controls the internet therefore it will think the law passed on home soil will apply everywhere. Therefore all of us can be effected.

All anybody in America can do is call for solid proof of the claim behind this proposed law. Then act on that information but substaintating ithe proof or asking for the representatives to throw the law out onthe grunds of false antedotal evidence.

Has anybody asked for the proof to verfy the claim?

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Gris Gris wrote:
America thinks it controls the internet therefore it will think the law passed on home soil will apply everywhere. Therefore all of us can be effected.

All anybody in America can do is call for solid proof of the claim behind this proposed law. Then act on that information but substaintating ithe proof or asking for the representatives to throw the law out onthe grunds of false antedotal evidence.

Has anybody asked for the proof to verfy the claim?


I haven't looked too far into it but from what I understand it has been widely protested by many groups. I don't see it passing because I would have to argue it is unconstitutional. Either way it won't be very effective IMO.
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