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PostSubject: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:47 am


Bee's - Maddogz Grand National Sweepstake 2011

Each member can pick 5 horses.
First come, first served.
A horse can only be taken once.
If there are any horses left over then we can pick more in order.

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Check that somebody else hasn't picked the same horse.

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Chaque membre peut prendre 5 chevaux.
Premier arrivé, premier servi.
Un cheval ne peut être pris une fois.
S'il ya des chevaux reste alors nous pouvons choisir plus en vue.

Bonne chance! : 12:
Assurez-vous que quelqu'un d'autre a pas choisi le même cheval.









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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:51 am

My picks.

Midnight Club
Silver by Nature
Comply or die
Can't buy time
Surface to Air.
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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:58 am

Big Fella thanks
Backstage
West End Rocker
Cant Buy Time
Calgary bay.



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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:16 am

Majestic Concorde

State of Play

BlueSea Cracker

Oscar Time

Niche Market



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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:51 pm

Winner was TW with 3 in the top 5 clap


NATIONAL The final result s are:

1.Ballabriggs
2.Oscar Time TW
3.Don't Push It
4.State Of Play TW
5.Niche Market TW

6 The Midnight Club, me
7 Big Fella Thanks, Gaz
8 Surface To Air, me
9 Skippers Brig,
10 Backstage,
11 King Fontaine,
12 Silver By Nature, me
13 In Compliance,
14 Bluesea Cracker, TW
15 Character Building,
16 Golden Kite,
17 Chief Dan George,
18 Royal Rosa,
19 Piraya

The Fallers and those who pulled out.

Fence 1 That's Rhythm (fell)
Fence 2 Becauseicouldntsee (fell), Vic Venturi (brought down)
Fence 4 Ornais (fell), Calgary Bay (fell)
Fence 6 Becher's Brook Downey's Gate (fell), Or Noir De Somoza (fell), The Tother One, (fell), West End Rocker (brought down)
Fence 10 Tidal Bay (unseated rider)
Fence 11 Quolibet (unseated rider)
Fence 13 Grand Slam Hero (fell) Fence 16 Quinz (pulled up)
Fence 18 Can't Buy Time (fell)
Fence 24 Majestic Concorde (unseated rider)
Fence 27 What A Friend (pulled up), Killyglen (fell), Santa's Son (pulled up)
Fence 28 Comply Or Die (pulled up), Arbor Supreme (unseated rider)
Fence 29 Hello Bud (pulled up


The horse that died were not obstacles, as referred to by some crass commentator, they were dying animals. Ballabriggs were throughly exhuasted and dangerously dehydrated and the jocky if I ever see him will get a whipping from me the same way he whipped the poor horse.

Grand national always brings out the best and worst of people as a game or bloodsport depending on which side of the fence you are sat on.
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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:12 pm

Never watch it, its monumentally cruel!



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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:32 pm

Gaznandi wrote:
Never watch it, its monumentally cruel!

Horse can jump and run, but there is a fine line between acceptable and pushing the cruely line. Races horses are bred for this, so in one camp the race is accpetable. On the other side, whipping a horse to get it across the line is not acceptable.

I'm on the fence with this one, I've seen horses jump and race and enjoy it but the carnage of the grand national is something that should be stopped.
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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:59 pm

Gris Gris wrote:
Gaznandi wrote:
Never watch it, its monumentally cruel!

Horse can jump and run, but there is a fine line between acceptable and pushing the cruely line. Races horses are bred for this, so in one camp the race is accpetable. On the other side, whipping a horse to get it across the line is not acceptable.

I'm on the fence with this one, I've seen horses jump and race and enjoy it but the carnage of the grand national is something that should be stopped.

Over 4 miles jumping ridiculously elevated fences..?

There's no way race horses are bred for this, it's like the Ironman event for humans, pushes the limits way too far so participants suffer, it's the whole point..

It's fuckin ghastly..
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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:50 am

Wish I had put a bet on those horses brick wall



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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:40 pm

Gaznandi wrote:
Gris Gris wrote:
Gaznandi wrote:
Never watch it, its monumentally cruel!

Horse can jump and run, but there is a fine line between acceptable and pushing the cruely line. Races horses are bred for this, so in one camp the race is accpetable. On the other side, whipping a horse to get it across the line is not acceptable.

I'm on the fence with this one, I've seen horses jump and race and enjoy it but the carnage of the grand national is something that should be stopped.

Over 4 miles jumping ridiculously elevated fences..?

There's no way race horses are bred for this, it's like the Ironman event for humans, pushes the limits way too far so participants suffer, it's the whole point..

It's fuckin ghastly..

Race horses are berd for this, if you ever purchase an ex racehorse you will find they have to have a specialised diet for the rest of their lives. As they can't eat normal horse food, such is their genetic tailoring. It's likepedigree dogs, they are gentically tailored but end up with inherant faults.

Horses do naturally jump, I've seen the on round up's at the new forest and those ponies can jump high and run for miles. Which I would do given the choice. Cross country/all terrain derbys have running distances and all manner of jumps.


There has been calls for the Grand National to be ended or at least the jumps and course less damaging. I am a supporter of this and to ban the whip. A horse can see the whip it doesn't need to feel it.
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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:41 pm

The-Wall wrote:
Wish I had put a bet on those horses brick wall
Always the way, bet and lose , play a game and win. Sods law. cry
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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:55 am

First year since I was in nappies I didn't have a bet on it.

Beautiful creatures, most horses would love to have the lifestyle of a race horse ... don't buy in to the cruelty argument tongue


A little bit of light whipping never hurt anyone ... so they say
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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:58 am

It's not the life I disagree with, it's that one race in particular...

2 miles too far and with too many dangerous fences...



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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:40 am

I never had you down for a David Cassidy fan Gaz. Did you see it on the One Show? Thought it was gonna end in punches ...

Seriously though, you have a point, it's a brutal course.
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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:35 am

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I never had you down for a David Cassidy fan Gaz. Did you see it on the One Show? Thought it was gonna end in punches ...


No mate but tell me more...

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PostSubject: Re: Maddogz (BEE) Grand National Sweepstake 2011   Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:27 am

Haha.

He was on the One Show, on the couch with a jockey (or ex trainer), Cassidy got on his high horse about the national and it turned into a proper verbal scrap. The Welsh bird had to break away for a link ... just had a scan at YouTube but nothin' there
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