- Mrs-G wrote:
- Mmmm fascinating, It does make you wonder if some people are born bad?
I'm certainly not condoning what those two did but he had his chance and blew it..........even if it was for a minor offence, he obviously hasn't learned a damn thing? Throw away the key this time.......... 
The psychologists would argue, you aren't. Parental , outside influence (TV etc) and society (neighbourhood) shape you to what you are. Upto 2 years old you are a blank state, after that your makeup begins to form you to who you are.
Which is a pile of crap when you have respectable people behaving like animals and animals behaving respectfully.
If you are abused , you do not necessary go onto abuse. If you watch Horror or violent films will go out and replicate them.
I think there is dark element to everybody, most don't delve into it or even know its there. Others like Dahmer, Gacey, Bundy, Manson and Venable's do.
To some, It hink it is true of Dahmer, Gacey and Bundy, have no idea what is right from wrong. THey killed but think it is ok therefore right and acceptable. Society is the one at fault and therefore has the problem not them. That is their reasoning. Wrong doesn't fit their equation or logic.
Manson knows right from wrong, his was power, he is very persuasive and powerful and people followed and did what he asked. He still has that power and hold.
Other's it could be for the thrill the ultimate adrenline rush they seek. Power is seductive, control is desirable and like a drug addict, addictive.
It is like asking, can I kill, yes or no. Most them would add further questions to that base questions, could I kill somebody in cold blood. Could I kill somebody who raped and killed my child. Could I kill somebody if I was so ordered to do so, ie army. Could I kill my somebody who was suffering a terrible disease which would result in then suffering an agonisingly slow and painful death? So on and so forth rather than answer a simple yes or no at the base question. Most of us set bundaries as to how far the line is before we act in such away. For some life is to be preserved no matter how bad, sick corrupt, etc that life maybe.
For me, the likes of Dahmer, Bundy, Venables etc they all seen to share something, the look in their eyes, I can't explain what that look is, at best I could say they look dead, there is no spark of humainty in their eyes. It just something killers like that all seem to have about them.
It is the same for those who have been in a coma, not an induced one, they have flat eyes, the spark of life is missing. It's peculiar and maybe just me, but in a test I did, I pulled out all the serial killers based on 'that look, about them. None were of 'known', serial killers or murderers either etc. So there must be something I can identify or my instincts kick in on preservation mode, who knows.
Subject: Re: James Bulger murderer Jon Venables returned to prison 
Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:49 pm
